clove oil
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Pros
- Parent context: I use a .22 with wadcutter rounds. Instant death. Their heads explode. Most painless way to do it imo. The clove oil method sounds mean to me. Just grab your balls and do it the right way for the sake of the animal. Reply...
- OP, get yourself some clove oil and a small container. Here's a link I found on how to do this properly. They'll pass in their sleep and not have to feel any pain.
- Clove oil is the most popular method and minimizes suffering.
Cons
- There is zero evidence to say how it works (method of action), has not been studied to determine if it's humane, and based on what we see with every other animal, it's probably not. I will never use it although I do trust that biologists...
- It never actually met many requirements or had evidence it did what pet owners would expect but for home euthanasia it got put on approved lists and it was an accessible option. Current studies are all saying it needs to be pulled from s...
- it doesn't always actually end the life of the fish.
- Eugenol does not suppress the CNS. It causes hypoxia (not the sedation you're looking for), immobilizes fish while they still feel pain, and doesn't result in brain death- in fact, seizures occur. That's not peaceful and that's unacceptable
- Clove oil can be unpredictable. I’ve used it a few times and I won’t use it again.
Sentiment
3 positive (25%) · 0 mixed (0%) · 9 negative (75%)
Trust + time weighted score: -59% · raw score -50%
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There is zero evidence to say how it works (method of action), has not been studied to determine if it's humane, and based on what we see with every other animal, it's probably not. I will never use it although I do trust that biologists care and don't believe they see suffering which has always been reported with fish.
It never actually met many requirements or had evidence it did what pet owners would expect but for home euthanasia it got put on approved lists and it was an accessible option. Current studies are all saying it needs to be pulled from schedules. It cannot be used for snails and sadly people recommend it left and right for them too.
it doesn't always actually end the life of the fish.
Eugenol does not suppress the CNS. It causes hypoxia (not the sedation you're looking for), immobilizes fish while they still feel pain, and doesn't result in brain death- in fact, seizures occur. That's not peaceful and that's unacceptable
Clove oil can be unpredictable. I’ve used it a few times and I won’t use it again.
Parent context: The whole conversation around clove oil is much more complicated than the online guides make it sound. Often, the concentration is off or the method of application is off, and the fish ends up dying a super agonizing death. Reply: The whole conversation around clove oil is much more complicated than the online guides make it sound. Often, the concentration is off or the method of application is off, and the fish ends up dying a super agonizing death.
Do not use clove oil. There is actual science and research that has been done with eugenol and fish. It will kill crayfish, yes, eugenol can be dosed to kill many things. It's not appropriate for many animals it's used on- it's cheap, it's accessible and hobbyists spread a ton of misinformation about it.
Eugenol does not depress the CNS so fish are immobilized yet, backed by at least two studies, still feel pain and show seizure activity/convulsions. It is NOT considered humane and the recommendation is for this method to be pulled from any AVMA schedules as it doesn't meet the standards for being ethical or humane.
Parent context: not sure if you can feed them to the beast which is called Reginald after, but clove oil is a good choice! It produces an anesthetic affect and makes them a bit drowsy before putting them to sleep which gives them a painful, less traumatising death. Reply: Just checked, clove oil also euthanizes Crayfish unfortunately. So I would rather not risk feeding them to him if I go that route, but thank you for that info!
Parent context: I use a .22 with wadcutter rounds. Instant death. Their heads explode. Most painless way to do it imo. The clove oil method sounds mean to me. Just grab your balls and do it the right way for the sake of the animal. Reply: That seems a bit excessive. Clove oil has anesthetic properties, and is the most painless and humane method available to most folks who aren't vets or doctors.
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